Hell and Heaven

Tamashii no Refrain(魂のルフラン) by Yoko Takahashi (song from End of Evangelion)
Heart of the Brave by Freedom Call

I saw a YM status message that said that “the Christian heaven is hotter than hell because it has a sun that is seven times brighter than our sun, which would make it much hotter than hell, which is only at the boiling point of sulfur.” I did some research on this idea and found this article[link].

From the outset, of course, we know that this whole article is just silliness as it attempts to explain something supernatural using natural science. It makes a lot of assumptions (which in my opinion is a very unscientific practice): that Gehenna/Gehinnom IS the actual valley of Ben Hinnom near Jerusalem, that the light of the sun described is of the exact same nature as light in this physical existence, and that the verses in question refer to heaven and hell.

Without getting into the scientific aspect of the debate (which I barely understand), I’d like to say that the debate is based on erroneous premises in the first place. Why?

Simple. There is no sun in heaven.

And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb –Revelation 21:23

The rest of this chapter is a description of heaven, so that verse is definitely not out of context. If you think I’m being too literal, I’d ask you to consider the premises of this debate in the first place. 😛

So what was the verse that the debate referred to?

The light of the moon will be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun will be seven times brighter…–part of Isaiah 30:26

Contradiction? Not really. Here’s the whole context.

19 O people in Zion, inhabitant in Jerusalem, you will weep no longer. He will surely be gracious to you at the sound of your cry; when He hears it, He will answer you. 20 Although the Lord has given you bread of privation and water of oppression, He, your Teacher will no longer hide Himself, but your eyes will behold your Teacher. 21 Your ears will hear a word behind you, “This is the way, walk in it,” whenever you turn to the right or to the left. 22 And you will defile your graven images overlaid with silver, and your molten images plated with gold. You will scatter them as an impure thing, and say to them, “Be gone!”
23 Then He will give you rain for the seed which you will sow in the ground, and bread from the yield of the ground, and it will be rich and plenteous; on that day your livestock will graze in a roomy pasture. 24 Also the oxen and the donkeys which work the ground will eat salted fodder, which has been winnowed with shovel and fork. 25 On every lofty mountain and on every high hill there will be streams running with water on the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall. 26 The light of the moon will be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun will be seven times brighter, like the light of seven days, on the day the LORD binds up the fracture of His people and heals the bruise He has inflicted.
27 Behold, the name of the LORD comes from a remote place;
Burning is His anger and dense is His smoke;
His lips are filled with indignation
And His tongue is like a consuming fire;
28 His breath is like an overflowing torrent,
Which reaches to the neck,
To shake the nations back and forth in a sieve,
And to put in the jaws of the peoples the bridle which leads to ruin.
29 You will have songs as in the night when you keep the festival,
And gladness of heart as when one marches to the sound of the flute,
To go to the mountain of the LORD, to the Rock of Israel.
30 And the LORD will cause His voice of authority to be heard,
And the descending of His arm to be seen in fierce anger,
And in the flame of a consuming fire
In cloudburst, downpour and hailstones.

So the verse was taken out of context and said to refer to heaven, while the verses immediately before and after refer to wrath and judgment. There are mentions of prosperity, but not an eternal peace and communion with God. It will be a time of healing after the day of great slaughter, but not exactly heaven. Not yet.

In any case, I just wanted to write this to shake down some false “information” that people will automatically assume to be true, knowing how [mis]information spreads on the Great Online.

Getting Your Facts Straight,
Your Black Lion


~ by J. R. R. Flores on June 11, 2007.

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